05-30-2011 #4 Same censored thing basically, enduro just gets used by the media loads to sell stuff. XC: Long distance, endurance based race format. Support Us | I’ve seen all mtn bikes called trail bikes and trail bikes called all mountain bikes. Most of these classifications stem from whether one races or not and if so what their focus is on. Just ride what's in front of you on the bike that's under you! Here in Ontario I take XC to mean more managed trails with a bit of hard pack, flowy, tree slalom, with a few rocks and roots for extra excitement as you blast out another lap against the clock. Vtt All Mountain ou Enduro Le VTT all mountain se traduit par vélo de montagne. Geometry strongly favors descending to climbing. used to be called mountain biking when i were a lad. I include fatbiking with beach cruising…fun to do but hard to take seriously . . Sono generalmente in alluminio poichè si predilige la resistenza strutturale alla leggerezza. hay más diferencias entre all mountain y enduro, aunque son sutiles, pero las hay, rigidez, geometría y peso... y para mi es un placer tratar de explicarselas diariamente a todo el … No one is sure which is more hardcore but basically they are both 150-160mm travel bikes. Maar met onderstaande tips kies jij de bike die het beste bij je past! These clipless and SPD shoes have all scored over four our of five on test, so you can be assured we rated them highly. The latest enduro bike may not look dissimilar to the all-mountain bikes of yesteryear, but in fact they are very different animals. schwerer. Singletracks Merch | "That extinct volcano looks like it would be fun…". This is the best definition/description/summary I have ever seen. Order this week to guarantee your size and to get yours as soon as they’re produced! Due to the nature of the racing, this new breed is more DH focused, with slacker angles and better Como ya se mencionó, primero debemos subir la montaña. The Ultimate Mountain Bike battle. I don't race so I don't do Enduro and I think All Mountain is such a dumb term - you get all mountain skis which I understand, good for on groomers, but capable of skiing in powder and steeps, makes sense but all mountain bike? A Santa Cruz Nomad (left) vs. a Santa Cruz 5010 (right); enduro vs. trail (photos: Santa Cruz) Some of the factors that engineers must consider when building a mountain bike include the frame material, suspension platform, wheel size, and components. [/quote:diuvfsca] All mountain and Enduro are sorta blurred nowadays. JT sums it up. Short travel to mid travel full suspension or burly hardtail rig. Enduro is a style of racing that tries to challenge technical bike handling ability more than the pure cardio ability of XC. I think a lot of it has to do with your own mentality regarding what and how you ride. Now that someone mentioned "FATBiking"….What image or style does that conjure up ? We’re taking pre-orders for Singletracks jerseys again and this time around we have a new trail/enduro style available in addition to XC and DH styles. Also I think all mtn and trail are just two names for the same thing. I hear these terms 'All Mountain' and 'Enduro' bandied around all the time on the forum and in the MTB media, but can someone please give a concise definition of what each means and what the difference is? Enduro mountain biking is a newer and evolving form of riding. An Enduro race will be across two days and you are often out on the bike all day. Hope this helps and if anyone has other opinions its always good to have a discussion. Also riders typically have to be self supportive during the event. Well then, less time discussing arbitrary classifications, more time riding singletrack , No disagreement here. Actually, I’m surprised no one threw in FATbiking.. Pedaling/climbing is something that you can't just improve on without going worse in some area. Where do you start? in: Mountain Bike Forum, Started by: n8dan Teoricamente sono As for taking HardTails for DH… naahhhhh, I’ll pass to the dual w/180+mm fork. Don’t ask me what enduro motorcycling is, I don’t ride bikes with motors. Enduro's 'All Mountain' discipline therefore favours riders with a breadth of skill, on multi-discipline cycles. First off road bikes were called 'All Terrain Bikes'. Typically will have 4-5 stages in a day which involve being timed on the downs which are where the real "racing" occurs, but have finite but non-competing amount of time to get to the start of the next timed down hill section. Le VTT all mountain ne correspond pas à un format de compétition. DH: shuttle or lift to the top of a hill and ride down it. MTB Podcast | Typically hardtail or short travel full suspension rigs. , XC: you are going to get lightness and steep head tube (around 71 degrees) and seat tube angles usually hard tail but some full and suspension range 90-100 mm (most common) normally 29″ rims rs rs-1, fox 32 stepcast dtswiss forks up hill not ver agressive dh, Trail: will usually have a rs pike or revelation, fox 34 or 32 or something not supper beefy and with 120-150 mm travel front and rear and 68-66 degree head angle all a round rig, AM: will be much like trail from what I know, Enduro: will have 150-180 mm travel with a beefy fork like a rs lyrik pike, dvo dimond, or a fox 36 and will have slack head tube (67-65) low bb and long wheel base wide tires short chain stays and wide rims will be built for the agressive dh but it can also climb, freeride: beefy as hell and meant to take a beating. As all-mountain/enduro bikes get better and better at climbing/pedaling, There is no such thing. De keuze wordt alleen maar groter. Salve a tutti, Sto cercando informazioni per poter acquistare una nuova bici. This is because the overall structure is similar to trail bikes but they have tons of slack. Maybe the term actually relates to the extra travel needed to cater for enhanced sag after eating a food mountain? I mostly agree JT, but it depends on where in the world you ride as well. If you’re faster than me on your (insert specialty bike here), more power to you! I think Enduro is off and on road, and trail is strictly off road. Um dies zu klären, ließen wir das Cube Stereo Hybrid 140 ( getestet in EMTB 1/16 ) gegen seinen größeren Bruder, das Stereo Hybrid 160 (getestet in EMTB 2/16), zum Konzeptvergleich antreten. I'm not so sure: all the 'all mountain' bikes I've ever seen have been propped up outside trail centre cafes while their owners indulge in coffee and cake. Enduro sind (im allgemeinen) noch stabiler als All-Mountain-Bikes und auch evtl. Arbitrary classifications used to market arbitrary products to consumers…No different marketing approach than most other things. It’s fun until your friends find out! SidelineSwap is where cyclists buy and sell their gear. Interesting, isn’t it? Es fällt mir allerdings https://www.bluespruceventures.com/stor … egory_id=1. If I rode DH more than 6 weekends a year, I'd definitely buy one. These bikes are created for darting downhill as fast as possible. They seem to breakdown/fail when you attempt to use these to classify "where" you ride and "how" you ride (with the exception possibly of DH). Best MTB Gear | XC vs Trail vs Enduro vs All Mtn vs Free Ride vs DH ?? The majority of the bikes out there are capable of blurring the lines with the exception of the freestyle and DH rigs. Most of the time the courses are not super technical and tend to lean toward fast flowing (YES this is very subjective). Or are they types of terrain? When I rode in NZ, Trail riding blurred with what we now call All Mountain and what my mates and I referred to as "Adventure" rides eg. – cherouvim Jul 26 '13 at 16:36 And it's going to be different, for different people. "Trail" riders, which I consider myself to be, are people who buy multi-purpose bikes (also called All Mountain -the difference in terms is due to industry marketing) capable of riding a variety of terrain comfortably for the pure sake of riding. Seriously, someone explain the difference… And while we are at it, lets hear the difference between All Mtn & Enduro. All three! super d is mostly downhill (direction not type) with a bit of climbing and for enduro all I know is that it is a type of race. Enduro : Time trail staged race format. It does change my perspective on these "classifications"…They DO describe where & how you ride and not necessarily what you ride. Enduro, a more all out speed version of all mountain. I don’t ride for speed or PR’s nor do I race. in: Mountain Bike Forum, Started by: bbone XC riders traditionally wear tighter jerseys with a zipper front, while DH riders wear baggie jerseys with the trend being no zipper. After reading all of this good information, which explains a lot. Enduro vs. All-mountain? Freeride: big mountains, big jumps, big bikes. There are mandated downhill and tech sections in a true Enduro event. Que conste que yo salgo con mi patriot de 14.200gr o con las ruedas brutas en 16kg justos y hago los mismo, pero se nota, cada bici para lo que es. As for what you ride… When I had my Mongoose 26 (still do), I’d pass those fancy boys on their Carbon 29er’s all decked out in tights. +1! Egal, ob es den Berg hinauf oder hinab geht – das Enduro meistert beides effizient. and have shorter travel. Lightweight XC bikes may lack sufficient suspension for fast downhill control, while full downhill bikes may not allow a rider to climb the uphill sections efficiently. I think I want to just be a Mountain Biker again. That’s the best explanation yet. Widgets, Explore   El All Mountain (AM) se trata de subir una montaña, con nuestro propio esfuerzo, y bajarla por un sendero técnico y difícil. XC style riding and racing is usually centered around high cardio fitness and speed. Those clowns still don’t take the jumps and big drops. Just smile as they try to go fast and trail-cut. All-Mountain oder Enduro. A style of riding? It seems like these 4 classifications translate to two. Totally agree…Seems like these "classifications" are used interchangeably to describe where/how you ride vs what you ride (which as you pointed out is not always the same). Digamos que es una mezcla entre Cross Country y Downhill . But usually means harder terrain with 140-170mm travel biked than can also be pedaled uphill fairly well. Canyon Spectral CF 9 (Current) vs Santa Cruz Hightower Carbon CC XO1 (2021). I have an XC bike but I ride Enduro and all Mountain. It makes it easier to market a product. To me, Trail means riding a little further, more of a journey than a repeated loop for speed with probably a little more rough and ragged tech challenge to it. bieten. Sie sind mehr für schnelleres bergabfahren ausgelegt als AMB's und sollten auch Reserven für Sprünge etc. Think Red Bull Rampage. All-mountain bikes have slightly more suspension travel than trail bikes, ranging from 5.5"/140mm to 6.7"/180mm. super d and enduro are types of races. Trail bike then? I’m thinking I should pick my next bike by the color I prefer. Curious to hear what others think about these classifications & how they interpret them? [quote="gar29":diuvfsca]Interesting, isn’t it? The test field in this enduro group test The 2019 season saw loads of exciting new and even more capable enduro bikes introduced. En definitiva, me parece que all mountain y el enduro es lo mismo (en inglés y en castellano) con bicis más o menos brutas pero con el requisito de ser un ciclista y no solo un descender (pedrolero o no y al margen de si también Riding a scooter? Enduro mountain bikes come with 27.5” or 29” wheels, or even mixed “mullet” sizes with 29” in the front and 27.5” in the rear. I just like to get out and ride!  Fatbikng = beach cruiser lol haha. As pointed out above…Enduro mountain biking is a new format of race. Es hat einen wesentlich größeren Federweg von 140 bis 160 mm, ein variables Fahrwerk sowie noch breitere und stärker profilierte Reifen. I think I want to just be a Mountain Biker again. Trail: Our equivalent of “soul surfing”. Just when I thought I had all these terms figured out…This happens….I guess I didn’t think these terms applied to fashion too & Are there plans for an All Mtn jersey in the near future? Yeah, we used to call your bikes "all mountain" before about 6 years ago, and we did all the same stuff. Mid travel burly bikes. Yes…So I dress like a "DH" rider, ride a "XC" bike, and tend to ride "Trail" or "All Mtn" terrain…then what type of rider am I ??? ALL MOUNTAIN= BICI 125 A 150MM LIGERA Y RODADORA, + DE 30 KM ENDURO= BICI DE 150MM PARA ARRIBA, MONTAJE ACORDE CON EL USO DURO, Y RUTAS DURAS NO MÁS DE 30KM. Scotty Laughland and his Canyon Exceed VS Neil Donoghue and his GT Sanction. X-Country, Enduro, Trail, Downhill. Think you’re confusing Enduro motorcyle events with enduro mountain biking. So Geo changes … The enduro I actually sized down at 5’11” as the S4 was way too much of a plow bike and the S3 was a better all rounder for me. Shop All Mountain & Enduro Bikes up to 70% off, or list for free in seconds. Unfortunately, classifications come with mainstreaming. Thats why I am curious to hear from the survey makers what they "thought" they were getting for replies when they asked what "type" of rider you were. But both having similiar trail features. Since enduro became the cool thing everyone suddenly seem to think you need 160mm+ suspension to ride blue/red trails at trail centres. all mountian is marketing for a certain type of bike. All mountain, uses all the terrain and elevation changes a mountain has to offer, and the ride is what you make it to be, slow or fast, more uphill or downhill all at your own pace. Normally much … Enduro, a more all out speed version of all mountain. I hear these terms 'All Mountain' and 'Enduro' bandied around all the time on the forum and in the MTB media, but can someone please give a concise definition of … I noticed in the recent survey a question asking you to identify what "type" of rider you are…Personally, I’ve found these classifications to be somewhat confusing with no clear cut "answer" for a given rider. The bike marketed to XC style are designed with this in mind and are therefore typically lighter (less durable??) I think enduro is just racing all mountain, I think #hashtagenduro is just racing all mountain. IMBA Epics | Those are pretty task specific. Gotta make it count. For example, I have a bike with 160mm in the back and 170mm in the front. You know, I always thought it was cheap that what kind of rider you were depended on your bike, not how you ride it. You must be logged in to reply to this topic. in: Mountain Bike Forum, Started by: TinyBubbles in: Mountain Bike Forum. Le All Mountain sono bici in genere più pesanti (11-15KG) Biammortizzate, hanno un'escursione tra i 120 ed i 180mm. But they cover a lot of ground. Then it’s a time trial to see who gets down the fastest. Thanks JT. 7-8” big bikes are typically essential but some parks nowadays are dumbed down enough so that a hardtail is all you need to shred. While I recognize the need to have further bike classifications beyond "Road" and "Off-road", it seems like the multitude of classifications are too many, confusing, and overlapping. All mountain, uses all the terrain and elevation changes a mountain has to offer, and the ride is what you make it to be, slow or fast, more uphill or downhill all at your own pace. red bull rampage is free ride, big jumps masive drops, huge gaps, DH: around 200 mm of travel front and back very long wheel base 65-60 degree head angle 27.5 rims wide tires dual crown fork fox 40 rs boxxer dvo emerald and will be built for explicitly going down, big drops, rock and root gardens, All the good answers are taken. I prefer AM & Enduro… I’m working into Freestyle for added fun, I’m no Akrigg, but you know…, Actually, I’m surprised no one threw in FATbiking… lol Since I ride year around, I’m debating on one of those. Le all mountain se pratique, comme son nom l’indique, en montagne ou du moins là où vous trouverez un peu de dénivelé. Trail riding? Capable of riding on trails and.....on other trails. I really don’t need it broken into a niche either. 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